Aug 28, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34
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#1
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Ascalonian Squire
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How to fix PvE
There is rampant inflation in PvE currently. Much of this inflation is due to solo farmers, who receive 8 times the drop rate of normal players in full groups. The best way to fix this would be to finally fix the drop rate. To do this, all that would need to occur is for items to drop in proportion to the number of people in the group. If there are 8 people, monsters drop an item/gold 100% of the time. If there are only 4 people, monsters drop items/gold 50% of the time, the other 50% nothing drops. If there's only one person, 7 out of 8 kills will result in no drop.
The benefits of this are clear-groups are encouraged, you can kill through monsters more quickly, and soloing is discouraged. With this change 8 players going in a mission together would finally be able to be as efficient as 8 players going in individually.
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Aug 28, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49
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#2
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Krytan Explorer
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I play a lot of PvE and quite honestly, I couldn't give a flying toss about drops.
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Aug 28, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50
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#3
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Profession: W/Mo
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I enjoy the fact that the only worry PvE'ers have has only to do with farming and gold prices.
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Aug 28, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52
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#4
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grind is subjective
Guild: learn this please
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So uh what about the people who don't WANT to go in a group?
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Aug 28, 2006, 04:52 PM // 16:52
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#5
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]
Profession: W/E
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First off; this has nothing to do with fixing pve; it's about stabalizing the economy. Second; there's nothing wrong with the state of the economy and Anet doesn't have a grudge against solo farmers so this would never be implimented. Third, this belongs in the Sardelic suggestion section. Also, under this system a person could potentially get better drops than current solo farmers with a team of 7 hench causing something to drop from every kill.
Last edited by Knightsaber Sith; Aug 28, 2006 at 04:56 PM // 16:56..
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Aug 28, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53
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#6
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Site Legend
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why should solo farming be discouraged? explain this in full detail otherwise i see this as just another rant.
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Aug 28, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58
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#7
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Apr 2006
Profession: N/R
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/notsigned. Sith beat me to it, but also wouldnt prices go down, not inflate, if there was an abundance in the market?
If it aint broke dont fix it.
Last edited by John Basedow; Aug 28, 2006 at 05:02 PM // 17:02..
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Aug 28, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59
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#8
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Stoke, England
Guild: The Godless [GOD]
Profession: W/
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Here's a wacky idea for the OP! You do what you want and let other people do what they want! If someone want's to solo a certain area for farming purposes then that's there prerogative. After all they paid the same price for the game as you did so what gives you the right to dicatate what they can or can't do?
Simple really!
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00
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#9
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Denmark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevor Reznik
There is rampant inflation in PvE currently.
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How exactly is that a problem.... unless you're solo farming or chest running.
Also you might have considered to think of a thread that actually had anything to do with the subject.
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01
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#10
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arizona
Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com
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What exactly is broken?
Wouldn't reducing the number of drops actually make things even more rare and more expensive?
If anyone doesn't wish to spend money on expensive items there is absolutely no reason to do so, what with perfect collector and crafter items available.
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01
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#11
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Denmark
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Also, under this system a person could potentially get better drops than current solo farmers with a team of 7 hench causing something to drop from every kill.
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Yeah that would make 'solo' farming a lot easier - bring 7 henches and get more/better drops, LOL!
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06
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#12
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Houston, Texas
Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN]
Profession: W/Mo
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Whats inflated? Prices on everything are getting lower and lower...
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07
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#13
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
Yeah that would make 'solo' farming a lot easier - bring 7 henches and get more/better drops, LOL!
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You misunderstood-you get the same drops as before with a hench group-the henchies still absorb 7 out of the 8 drops, just like they do now. Soloing under the new system would give you the exact same drop rate as going in with 7 hench-you'd be awarded a drop 1 out of 8 kills.
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13
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#14
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]
Profession: W/E
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When playing with a full team of hench presently; you get drops a lot more frequently than 1/8 of the time.
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16
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#15
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Arizona
Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com
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I still don't get it, why should soloing be discouraged?
How is it broken?
How do fewer drops = lower prices?
If everyone uses teams and thus gets the same drops as now, how does that make lower prices?
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:22 PM // 17:22
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#16
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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You see higher prices, but that's because people have more money , and pay it on high-end items.
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27
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#17
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: SAW
Profession: D/
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you know this seems to be another thread about how "I don't know how to solo farm so its not fair and no one should be allowed to"
for real guy these people have no impact on your play time other than actually lowering the prices of goods so you can possibly afford them... the game promotes plenty of group play not all areas are farmable and not 100% they do a fine enough job of mixing up the mobs in areas so that the entire area cannot be farmed and solod...
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30
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#18
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Banned
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I think this guy is angry because he died one too many times trying to solo FoW and then can't find any groups, so he wants to lay the blame on solo farmers who dare to farm alone instead of forming groups for him to join...
/notsigned /slapyouintheface
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40
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#19
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Millington, TN
Guild: Seele Erntemaschine {Nein}
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yeah i do alot of pve, and i honestly dont think it needs fixed. if anything the drop rates make the exictement of getting a maxed gold weapon, or off hand even better. now for an off topic ramble because i am happy. my college started today and all the teachers are just going over the syllabis and stuff. i only have 2 classes a day. my mondays and wednesdays are the same and my tuesdays and thursdays are the same. i am in my english class right now. each desk has its own desktop cpu. happy hunting everyone
Last edited by Daemon Dremora; Aug 28, 2006 at 05:44 PM // 17:44..
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Aug 28, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40
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#20
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: E/Me
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As others have said, inflation isn't a problem at all, and if it were, reducing the drops would make it worse.
I'm guessing what the OP is really trying to say is that he doesn't like that solo farmers can get rich so much faster than team players. This bothers me too, but I don't think the change is worth making - it'd piss off too many people who are really into farming.
Anet did a nice job of improving the quest and mission rewards in Factions so non-farmers could keep up. Back when amber was worth 2K each, doing quests for 750 faction a pop was really sweet. I hope the trend continues in Nightfall.
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